Mystic-Old-Man: See, your message from the beginning is yes, but after 30% it starts to take away 70% – not so much anymore.
Alexandr: And do I understand correctly that even if I make this attempt, I will still return to my now, and I will realise that I have to learn to be here and in this state, but without changing anything?
Mystic-Old-Man: That’s right.
Alexandr: But is it worth trying? How do you feel?
Mystic-Old-Man: It’s worth it, it’s definitely worth it.
Alexandr: Okay, and when I get to the point where nothing in society can affect me, but I can be in it and still be like in Zen and Nirvana and stuff like that?
Mystic-Old-Man: So you carry that point within you. The other thing is that you are coming out of that point all the time.
Alexandr: I understand, but I’m coming out because I haven’t learned yet and I’m determined to hold on to it.
Mystic-Old-Man: If you hold the point to accumulate motivational energy there, you will sit and act forever, even if you sit and do nothing. And you will still be acting.
Alexandr: Okay. Here I have a question. There are people who just live and live. They have their own tasks. This is a mass of people. It is clear that they are also divided into categories. And there are others. I don’t know what to call them, not even people; it’s you or me. Here we are; how can we be labelled? Programmes? Are we working for a higher power or are we already kind to those who have just passed through what humans have passed through? Who are you and I? Who are we?
Mystic-Old-Man: Look, here we have passed and we’re waiting for a function of an immediate connection.
Alexandr: And here I have such a question. And you and I, did we go through this in the past life or only in this life?
Mystic-Old-Man: I suspect it happened in a past life, but in a complex way. Or overlapping or coinciding. But it was.
Alexandr: Well, then I have another question. What about you? When your earthly journey ends here, will you remember and realise who you are next?
Mystic-Old-Man: I have a suspicion that I will. But it’s only a hunch, Alex.
Alexandr: But is it still our desire, or is it controlled by someone outside, a high- er something?