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Alexandr: So, it turns out that when a person reaches the complete stage of this transformation, they become invisible?
Mystic-Old-Man: Well, it turns out, for something, for someone, for some, but not for everyone.
Alexandr: Will I soon reach this state of invisibility?
Mystic-Old-Man: Well, yes.
Alexandr: And then, thanks to this, will I also start seeing other invisible ones if I become like that myself?
Mystic-Old-Man: Yes, yes, yes. This will happen over a trillion years. Well, in terms of the cosmos, the universe, that’s not much. But then there will be no Earth anymore, because that’s only 4 billion years, and a trillion years... Will our Earth survive? We will survive. But the Earth might not.
Alexandr: So, it turns out that the Earth, like a person, also transforms?
Mystic-Old-Man: Well, basically, yes.
Alexandr: Okay. Is it possible to suppose that, for example, the planet Earth and the other planets of the Solar System are the same, but transformed to different stages?
Mystic-Old-Man: You can’t say it like that, because then it’s unclear what we are starting from. If we think like that, it becomes an abstraction.
Alexandr: I understand, I understand. So, it seems like no, we can’t say it like that. I got it. Okay. Next question. The morning star — in general understanding, what did the ancient initiates mean by it? Is it Venus or Mercury?
Mystic-Old-Man: It’s what you start seeing in the morning on Earth, but not on Venus or Mars. So on each planet, the morning star will be something different, not what it is for us. But since we perceive it, it has meaning for us.
Alexandr: So for us, the one we perceive as the morning star is indeed the morning star — the one we see in the morning? And the evening star, accordingly, is the one we see in the evening?
Mystic-Old-Man: Yes.
Alexandr: So the point is that in other times or even in another system, these could be completely different elements playing the role of the morning star?
Mystic-Old-Man: Yes.
Mystic-Old-Man: Well, it turns out, for something, for someone, for some, but not for everyone.
Alexandr: Will I soon reach this state of invisibility?
Mystic-Old-Man: Well, yes.
Alexandr: And then, thanks to this, will I also start seeing other invisible ones if I become like that myself?
Mystic-Old-Man: Yes, yes, yes. This will happen over a trillion years. Well, in terms of the cosmos, the universe, that’s not much. But then there will be no Earth anymore, because that’s only 4 billion years, and a trillion years... Will our Earth survive? We will survive. But the Earth might not.
Alexandr: So, it turns out that the Earth, like a person, also transforms?
Mystic-Old-Man: Well, basically, yes.
Alexandr: Okay. Is it possible to suppose that, for example, the planet Earth and the other planets of the Solar System are the same, but transformed to different stages?
Mystic-Old-Man: You can’t say it like that, because then it’s unclear what we are starting from. If we think like that, it becomes an abstraction.
Alexandr: I understand, I understand. So, it seems like no, we can’t say it like that. I got it. Okay. Next question. The morning star — in general understanding, what did the ancient initiates mean by it? Is it Venus or Mercury?
Mystic-Old-Man: It’s what you start seeing in the morning on Earth, but not on Venus or Mars. So on each planet, the morning star will be something different, not what it is for us. But since we perceive it, it has meaning for us.
Alexandr: So for us, the one we perceive as the morning star is indeed the morning star — the one we see in the morning? And the evening star, accordingly, is the one we see in the evening?
Mystic-Old-Man: Yes.
Alexandr: So the point is that in other times or even in another system, these could be completely different elements playing the role of the morning star?
Mystic-Old-Man: Yes.