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Posted: Sun Sep 14, 2025 1:48 pm
Alexandr: Ah, it is something else, all right. Fate, that is, it is simply something else. And what is fate?
Mystic-Old-Man: But I just said, it is the zone of intersection.
Alexandr: The zone of intersection of what?
Mystic-Old-Man: Of the heavenly and the earthly.
Alexandr: Ahhh. The intersection, again, of two worlds. OK, I will take note of it. And I also have such an understanding, that the world of heaven... It is clear that there are people there, as in the world of earth, but can one also imagine or call it so, that since those who already live in the world of heaven, then they are no longer people, but some beings, angels or deities.
Mystic-Old-Man: I can say, it is permissible.
Alexandr: But there are none such on earth? Or are there also on earth?
Mystic-Old-Man: There are, there are. Only the manifestation of any living person — is the essence-clear expression of various zones of intersection. On earth there are quite many representatives who manifest themselves as living.
Alexandr: That is, it turns out, if there is something in heaven, then it is also on earth?
Mystic-Old-Man: Yes, I cannot say that it is everything, but nevertheless.
Alexandr: Fine. Here is another question. There is the afterlife, I consider it as the fourth, as the fourth season, that is, night, winter. And I have such an understanding, that as if there is the afterlife, it is the same as the world of heaven, only the opposite. And as if there are angels, beings, deities there, but as if, so to speak, dark ones, where there is no sun. And in heaven the same, but in the light. And as if those who are in heaven, the deities and angels, they as if further manifest on earth, and those who are in the world of the dead, they manifest in the underworld. Is it so?
Mystic-Old-Man: It is partly so, but there is that which does not act in heaven. It is the process of disintegration and combination of elements, which generate energy that can be called “afterlife.” But this is a conditional name “afterlife,” because it manifests as it manifests.
Alexandr: OK, then I will give another example. Can it be such that now there are people, who live... Let me put it this way, there are material people and there are spiritual ones. But they, let’s say, in reality, those who are material —
Mystic-Old-Man: But I just said, it is the zone of intersection.
Alexandr: The zone of intersection of what?
Mystic-Old-Man: Of the heavenly and the earthly.
Alexandr: Ahhh. The intersection, again, of two worlds. OK, I will take note of it. And I also have such an understanding, that the world of heaven... It is clear that there are people there, as in the world of earth, but can one also imagine or call it so, that since those who already live in the world of heaven, then they are no longer people, but some beings, angels or deities.
Mystic-Old-Man: I can say, it is permissible.
Alexandr: But there are none such on earth? Or are there also on earth?
Mystic-Old-Man: There are, there are. Only the manifestation of any living person — is the essence-clear expression of various zones of intersection. On earth there are quite many representatives who manifest themselves as living.
Alexandr: That is, it turns out, if there is something in heaven, then it is also on earth?
Mystic-Old-Man: Yes, I cannot say that it is everything, but nevertheless.
Alexandr: Fine. Here is another question. There is the afterlife, I consider it as the fourth, as the fourth season, that is, night, winter. And I have such an understanding, that as if there is the afterlife, it is the same as the world of heaven, only the opposite. And as if there are angels, beings, deities there, but as if, so to speak, dark ones, where there is no sun. And in heaven the same, but in the light. And as if those who are in heaven, the deities and angels, they as if further manifest on earth, and those who are in the world of the dead, they manifest in the underworld. Is it so?
Mystic-Old-Man: It is partly so, but there is that which does not act in heaven. It is the process of disintegration and combination of elements, which generate energy that can be called “afterlife.” But this is a conditional name “afterlife,” because it manifests as it manifests.
Alexandr: OK, then I will give another example. Can it be such that now there are people, who live... Let me put it this way, there are material people and there are spiritual ones. But they, let’s say, in reality, those who are material —