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[Alexandr Korol]

somewhere where there were no people, while people existed somewhere parallel to me. And that’s what I wasn’t satisfied with.
Mystic-Old-Man: I would probably say something like that. You see, you’re asking me for absolute precision, but the paradox of these phenomena is their boundlessness. And this boundlessness – many things that, let’s say, need to be named or defined... Look at how, for years, they’ve struggled to translate the English word “performance” into Russian. They’ve tangled everyone’s minds, saying it’s a very difficult word to translate. Now imagine trying to describe the kinds of phenomena you’re asking about.
Alexandr: Alright, then let me put it differently. There’s this word “theosis” – it’s a concept in Christian teaching. It refers to when a person reunites with God. Is that similar to what you meant and what I’m asking about?
Mystic-Old-Man: You see, these concepts are not identical. The terms themselves – as a process, as movement, maybe – but not as the phenomenon itself.
Alexandr: Alright, then let me ask another question differently. From my perspective, we are currently going through the end of an era and entering a new one. This has happened many, many times before. And likewise, there was always someone who acted as the one to reset everything, so to speak. First, they were among people, and then they left somewhere. So, does that mean that when they left, it was because they became this new world?
Mystic-Old-Man: Well, what you’re saying – yes, that could be the case.
Alexandr: So, it turns out that every tree, every mountain, the earth, plants – it’s as if the consciousness of this persona becomes everything, right?
Mystic-Old-Man: Yes, yes, yes, exactly.
Alexandr: But at the same time, if they wanted to, could they appear before people in the flesh?
Mystic-Old-Man: Well, in principle, yes.
Alexandr: Alright, so for this to happen – for them to spread across the whole world like this – do they just need to reach a certain level of development, or do they necessarily have to die as a human?
Mystic-Old-Man: The second one.
Alexandr: But it will be as if they didn’t die. They will have died for people, but at the same time, they didn’t die because they transformed.